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25th October 2007, 00:06
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Jesus and Egyptian Mythology
Are thier any similarites between the story of Jesus and Egyptian Gods. Skeptcis will say that Horus had 12 disciples, born of a virgin, etc..
Gearld Massey was the on who made this popular I think. My questions are
Is the Jesus story stole from Egyptian Gods?
Is Gearld Massey a reliable Egyptologist?
gerald-massey.org.uk/massey/dpr_01_historical_jesus.htm
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25th October 2007, 00:22
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Coincedently I was watching the Zeitgeist movie, the other day and same thing was mentioned there.
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25th October 2007, 00:34
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^^Yeah but is their any documents for these claims? Any inscriptions?
Kirshna was born of a mother who already had seven children. How could it be a virgin birth?
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15th November 2007, 23:52
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Jesus Found In Egipt
Since Mary Was Highly Favored , Why Was She Removed As An Original Member Of The Quadity ?
An Intentional Alteration Of The ScriptureOriginal Purpose Was Plotted Out And Execured Thus Mary Was Removed And The Original Quadity - 4 Being Became A Trinity - 3 Beings . Although These Religious Denominations That Recognizes The Trinity As Being 1. God The Father - Jehovah , 2 , God The Son - Jesus , And 3 . God The Holy Spirit - Gabriel . Today You Find These Teachings Of A Trinity Which Broke Off From TheOriginal Egyption Quadity And Is A Corruption . They In Fact Placed Gabriel , An AngelicBeing , A Spirit Being Of Luke 1 ; 19 And The Name Gabriel Translates Gebre - El Or Man Of God . From The Hebrew Gheh - ber - -- El '' Mighty , Man Child , Strong Man Warrior '' This Being Gabriel Walked The Earth Daniel 9 ; 21 Where It States Yea , While I Was Speaking In Prayer , Even The Man
Gabriel , Whom I Had Seen In The Vision At The Beginning , Being Caused To Fly Swiftly , Touched Me About The Time Of The Evening Oblation . There Are Things Happening Here ; a) Gabriel Is A Man , But The Word Used In The Hebrew Is Esh '' Male , Man , Husband '' Distinguishing It From Female , Esh - Shaw '' Female Wife , Woman '' They Knew That This Angel Could Appear In Physical Form '' Male . Man , Husband '' . Even The Muhammandan Faith Which Comes From Christianity , Retained This Belief That The Angel Gabriel Can Come In Human From In . The Word Bashran Used Their In Arabic Came From The Hebrew Word Bawar Meaning '' Body Or Person '' So These Holy Scripture Repeatedly Prove Beyond A Shadow Of A Doubt That This Angelic Being Comes In Human Form As A Male , And That He Is Called The 3rd Part Of The Trinity The Holy Ghost . Even The Old Testament In
Genesis 6 ;4 So Gabriel As A Gibbore Was A Son Of God And These Sons Of God Even As Far Back As Genesis 6 ;4 . The Word They Have There Is Adamite , Gabriel Was One Of These Such Gibbore Being , Which His Name Applies A Man Of God Used By God For Reproduction . The Fear Or These Long Hidden Facts Is What They Seek To Keep From The Public . So Now You Know Why The Modern Day Christian While Publicly Exalting And Recognizing The Trinity , They Have Intentionally Neglected To Recognize The 4th Member Of The Quad Principle The Blessed Holy Mother Mary As They Call Her And Even Give Here A Corrupt Name Mary / Miriam Which They Translate As '' Their Rebellion Or Rebellious '' If Isaac '' He Laughs '' Received His Name Because His Mother Sarah Laughed When She Heard She Was To Bear A Son At An Old Age Genesis 17 ; 19 , 18 ; 12 . Then Mary ''
Rebellion '' Must Have Received Her Name Because She Rebelled . What Did Mary Rebel Against When The Bible Don't State Her Reason For Rebelling ? Just Add The Letters Ta To The Name Mary And You Get '' Ta - Merry '' . And That's Another Way To Spell Egipt In Egiptian '' Ta - Mary Or Tama - Re '' http://topics.practical.org/browse/Yosef_Ben-Jochannan . Simply Because The Story Of Mary Was None Other Than The Supreme Being Isis , And Isis Rebelled Against Ra . A Well Known Story Amongst All Egiptologist . The Deception Between Isis And Ra And Trickery For The Sacred Word ( Read The Magic Word Of Ra And Charms And Amulets By Neter ; A'ferti Atum - Re )
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15th November 2007, 23:53
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Was Mary Stripped Of Her Deityship '' Godship ?
Yes Mary Was Even Stripped Of Her Deityship And The Holy Family Bond When She Is The One Who Gave Birth To God's Son Through The Holy Ghost , Gabriel
( Matthew 1 ; 18 , Luke 1 ; 15 , Luke 1 ; 35 ) . So You Can Plainly See There Was An Attempt To Discredit And Remove The Female From The Divine Quadity And Leave Them With A Trinity .
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15th November 2007, 23:54
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Where Did The Trinity Originate From ?
The Fact Is , That Over Time . Christianity Lost Sight Of The Original Egyptian Doctrine And Confused The TrueEgyptian Trinity Which Is 1 . Atum - Re ( Atom - Ra ) 2 . Atun - Re ( Aten - Ra ) And 3 . Amun - Re
Amen - Ra ) . Three Divine Points Of The Light Of The Nourishing Providing . Which Bring Each Day , Healing On Its Wings , The Light Of The Heavens And Earth ( Koran 24 ; 35 ) . The Bright And Morning Star
( Revelation 22 ; 16 ) , ( Psalms 84 ; 11 ) . The Lord God Claims To Be A Sun And One Point Of Glowing In The Darkess , A Secret Name I Can Not Give To The Un-Worthy , That Was The Original Trinity , But The Divine Family Incarnate Was A Quadity ; Which Is 1 . Osiris . Known As '' The Heavenly Father God '' 2 . Isis , Known As '' The
Blessed Mother Goddess , '' 3 . Horus . Known As '' The Sacred Son Of God '' And 4 . Khonsu Known As '' The Holy Soul . ( The Quadity Existence ) . Here You Have Your Jehovah , Mary , James , And Gabriel This Is Where It Came From Thousands Of Years Before The Story Of The Christ Child 2000Years Ago . Plagiarized By One Josephus Flavious Piso ( 37 - 97 A.D. ) One Of The Many Members Of The Sacred Brotherhood Of The White ( Light ) Lodge . Those Who Try To Hide The Truth From The World , The Luciferians . Conspiracy ( Refer to the book Luciferian Conspiracy And Leviathan 666 part 1 and 2 , Year 2000 and what to Expect )
You Have Unity , Then Twinity . Then Trinity , Then Quadity What They Call Their Trinity Is 1 . Father , 2 . Son , And 3 . Holy Ghost , Which Should Be 1 . Father . 2 . Mother And 3 , Son And That Come Out To Be 1 . Morning , The Father , 2 . High Noon . The Son , And 3 . Evening When The Moon Comes Out , The Mother , They Are A Symbol Of A Star And Crescent . The Star Being A Sun , And The Crescent Being The Moon , And The Female Cycle Of The Woman Which Occurs Every 29 1/2 Days For Menstrual Or Her Ovulation , Relates To The Moon . The Sun Is Nothing But Another Star , As The Son Is What The Father Is , For It States In John 14 ; 9 And I Quote, Jesus
Saith Unto Him . Have I Been So Long Time With You , And Yet Hast Thou Not Known Me Philip ? He That Hath See Me Hath See The Father Father ; And How Sayest Thou Then , Shew Us The Father ? Also Read John 10 ; 30 ;... So The Christian Concept Of A Trinity In Actuality Comes From The Three Position Of The Sun , The Egiptian Trinity . Atum - Re , The Morning , Atun - Re , The Moon , And Amun - Re, The Evening . When In Fact , The Christian Trinity Should Be Four Parts; 1 . The Father - Jehovah , 2 . The Mother - Mary , 3 . The Son - Jesus , And 4 . The Holy Ghost - Gabriel . And The Key FigureOn Earth Would Be The Word Of God Made Flesh In Ancient Egipt , Which Predates The Bible , Both Old And New Testaments,
That Was Haru Sa Aset '' Horus The Son Of Isis'' This Horus Was And Is The Same Personage In Other Cultures. Where He Became Known In Latin As Hesus ( Jesus ) , While In HebrewHe Is Yashua - Jesus , And In Arabic Isa - Jesus . In Greek Its Iesous - Jesus , And In Ancient Sumeria , The Same Being Was Called Tammuz Son ..Of Ishtar < Yashua Isa Jesus Christ In The Sumeria Teaching Is Cllled Tammuz sons of Ishtar Ezekiel 8 ; 14
( Read the book Jesus As Tammuz and Horus in history , by Dr . Malachi Z . York , Scroll # 134 ) Osiris Was Also Called ,
Tammuz In Babylonia And Syria , A Form Whom Was Also Known Outside The Near East In The Greek Adonis . In Anally Only To Rise Again From The Dead As Apart Of The Natural Cycle Of Decay And Revive Itself To Life Each Morning Called Sunrise . You Call It Resurrection , Sun Rise Each Morning In The East .. Matthew 24 ; 27 And I Quote , As The Son Of Man , Jesus ''' For As The Lightning Cometh Out Of The East , And Shineth Even Unto The West ; So Shall Also The Coming Of The Son Of Man Be
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15th November 2007, 23:56
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Weren't The Egiptian Sun Worshippers ?
No , the Egiptian did not worship the mass of energy , a sun god Malachi 4;2 And I Quote ; But for you who fear my name the sun of righteousness shall rise, with healing in its wings. You shall go forth leaping like calves from the stall.
that is 330,000 times that of the earth , The Bible calls it '' Shemesh < Aramic >
Psalms 84; 11 , And I Quote ; For the LORD God is a sun and shield; he bestows favor and honor. No good thing does the LORD withhold from those who walk uprightly.
The Koran 2;258 And I Quote ; Hast thou not Turned thy vision to one who disputed with Abraham About his Lord, because Allah had granted him power? Abraham said: "My Lord is He Who Giveth life and death." He said: "I give life and death". Said Abraham: "But it is Allah that causeth the sun to rise from the east: Do thou then cause him to rise from the West." Thus was he confounded who (in arrogance) rejected faith. Nor doth Allah Give guidance to a people unjust.
calls it Shams < Arabic >. Its also called solar , it's a star , One of many . The mass of energy referred to as the solar or sun which is logged to be 93 million miles from the planet earth with a diameter of 864,000 thousand miles and a heat ratio of 30,175,262 Fahrenheit . The actual sun was not worshipped , the principle that without in no life could exist on this planet reders it a sustaining force , a force of creating life source . With It All Will Die , Therefore the attribute , The Sustainers ''
which became '' Ar Rabb < Arabic > or Lord by Islaamic translators and Jehovah Lord by Jewish translators . and The Most High , El Elyown < Aramic > by the Torah of those Mosesism translators or Al Aliyu < Arabic > by the Koran of the Muslims , all claiming these titles or names , which some called attributes , represent a form of the highest force of physical energy detectible by the human eye that has an effect on human existence or life as we know it . And the sun being merely another star in a vast universe , gives it a symbolic relationship to the all powerful .
Although in their religious books , the Hebrews call the sun / shamesh < Aramic > Genesis 15; 12 , And I Quote ; As the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell on Abram; and lo, a dread and great darkness fell upon him. 13 Then the LORD said to Abram,
a name borrowed from the Akkadians and the Muslims borrowed it from the Jew as Shamsu < Arabic > sun . In any case , they all have to acknowledge the sun being the sustainer of life and the giver of life , for we depend on it ; the taker of life for Without It We Would Not Be .
They even call the Lord God '' Yahweh Eloheem '' of the bible in Psalms 84;11 a sun in Hebrew shemesh < Aramic > and shield '' mogen and it read ;... For the LORD God is a sun and shield; he bestows favor and honor. No good thing does the LORD withhold from those who walk uprightly. and this Shemesh < Aramic > is no more than the Babylonian and Assyrian deity Shemesh or Shamash or Samas , shown seated on the stellar of the Code Of Hammurabi . According to A Comprehensive Dictionary Of The Gods , From Abaasy to Zvoruna , by Anne S . Baumgartner , page 161 , '' Shamash was the son of Sin-Nanna , husband of A , father of Kettu and Mesharu , God of the sun , god of justice , and god of healing
What Did The Sun Represent In Anciend Days ? In ancient times the sun and its rays represent a message of life from the source of all existence , The message was '' by this mere point in this space and time which being created , you exist . So it was a symbol of respect and reverence from the source of the universe , incomprehensible , the indefinable source of all .
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15th November 2007, 23:57
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So Why Is Re Or Ra Called The Sun God In Egipt ?
It was the foreigers with their limited knowledge and lack of OverStanding / UnderStanding tied in with the Egiptian's secrecy and UnWillIngNess to explain themselves to those they considered Intellectually Inferior that left the foreigner to leave Egipt , return to their lands and fabricate their definitions or interpretation of what they think they UnderStood of what Egiptians practiced , namely the Greek ,
the Romans , the Canaanites , Indo-Arabs , Turks , the Phoenicians and many others who merely scratched the surface of the mystery school and reported Mis-Information . So it is not that the Egiptians Worshipped The Sun Itself . but in fact all animals looked forward to the appearance of the Sun in the Morning because of its warmth , Only cold blooded animals called reptiles , and beside the reptile , the canine specie are nocturnal hunt-ers , flesh eater , Remembering that the night is not for the weak .
not for the fearful not for the timid for Homo Sapien can be nocturnal and diurnal that is can see in the light as well as in the dark and angel and the Lord dwelled in the darkness when the Eloheem said let their be light Genesis 1;3 And I Quote ; And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light ,In 1Kings 8;12 And I Quote ; Then Solomon said, "The LORD has set the sun in the heavens, but has said that he would dwell in thick darkness.
and the Hebrew word used for Thick Darkness is Arawfel < Aramic > meaning '' heavy or dark cloud , thick darkness , In Amos 5;18 , 20 And I Quote ; Woe to you who desire the day of the LORD! Why would you have the day of the LORD? It is darkness, and not light ;.. Is not the day of the LORD darkness, and not light, and gloom with no brightness in it?
Also Read Psalms 18;11, And I Quote ; He made darkness his covering around him, his canopy thick clouds dark with water.
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