If your telling the truth keyword IF , Then that mean your making it up as you go , So It Fake . But its matter not to me , lolololololol

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Aw meen za3laan delwa2ti?

Is that the best response you can come up with? bas?!

You see my ancient egyptian friend, you can verify the above mentioned SCHOOLS (REAL Schools of thought) in all the islamic history books you like - you may also be interested to see what Hans Wehr has to say about the definition of Mathab.

But typically you overlook any evidence that goes against your assumptions as 'FAKE' and laugh it off with that adorable lololololol

lol but seriously I like how you say IF im telling the truth its fake and I am making it up - haha sounds quite paranoid to me. If you are not feeling too lazy you can give this a click have a little read: Madh'hab - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Either way it doesn't quite bother me


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For those interested:
Video explaining difference between Sects and Schools of Thought within Islam

Islam allows difference of opinion - on things indefinate

Today there are roughly 7 prominent schools in existence - with their own critieria of interpretating the Islamic texts.

Muhammad prophecised Islam will be divided into SECTS - yet the Muhtahib do not count as Sects within Islam - rather legitimate Difference of opinions - with their evidences.

Yes , They do , But they will say they don't. According to the Muslim religion , Christianity was founded prior to Islam. In Christianity the Disciples of the Messiah Jesus began to write '' Gospels '' which were said to be accounts of the life of the Messiah Jesus . These '' Gospels '' were proven to be contradictory even though all of these Men were Disciples of the Messiah Jesus . However , the writes of these were '' Sanctified '' and their Gospels '' authorized . This same concept was borrowed by the Sunni Muslim religion. After the death of the Prophet Muhammad Hadith were written about the life of the Prophet Muhammad. The Hadith writers also were '' Sanctified '' and their writing authorized . Isn't this a Borrowed Christian Concept?

Christianity; --- Authors Of New Testament ;..... Saint Paul / Saint Luke / Saint Matthew / Saint John / Saint Mark / Saint James / Saint Timothy / Saint Jude / Saint Peter ...

Mohammad -ism ;... Authors Of Hadith Books ;.... Saint Bukhari / Saint Muslim / Saint Tirmidhi / Saint Abu Daoud / Saint Ibn Majah / Saint Anas / Saint An Nasa'i / Saint A. Darimi / Saint Al Kulini ....

The Hadith are merely stories about dead men . Dead men that are '' Adored '' are called '' Saints '' . Another striking Comparison can be made by the deaths of the Christian Saints and the Caliphs . Again , isn't this another Borrowed Concept of ;....

Christianity ; Moslem Saint ;.... 'Umar - died from a stab wound by Persian Christian slave named Firoz while making prayer. 'Uthman -- Beheaded by Egyptians who first struck him in head 3 time with axe and stabbed him on the side with a sword.

Christian Saint; ...... St. Thomas - shot by shower of arrows while in prayer. ;.... St. James - Beheaded by Herod in Jerusalem ( Acts 12 ; 2 ) . Do Muslims Have Popes, Yes, They call then Calips or '' Successors '' to the Prophet Muhammad. Notice The Similarities In Both Of The Offices ;

Christian Popes ;..... Highest teacher , judge and governing power of church / Must be Roman Catholic / Make laws for the entire church / Approves new religious orders / Addressed as '' Your Holiness / All actions based on convention and traditions of Paul / Regarded as leader of Christian church founded by Jesus Christ. / Relies on voluntary contributions collected yearly for all personal expenses .

Muslim Pope ;.... Absolute authority in all matters of state , both civil and religious , according to Qur'an and Hadith / Must be of the tribe of Quraish / Make innovative laws in Islam / First caliohs approved Muslim religion 200 years after the Prophet Muhammad died / Addressed as '' Noble'' / All action based on traditions of the Prophet Muhammad / Regared as head of Islamic religion founded by the Prophet Muhammad / Relies on Zakat ( alms ) for his living and personal expenses . These Are The First Three'' Popes '' Recognized By The Orthodox School Of Thought ;

( 1 ) . Pope Abu Bakr Ibn Uthman ( 573 - 634 A.D. ) Abu Bakr was the first recognized Khalifa ( successor ) to the Prophet Muhammad who was a Red Arab from the tribe of Taim , one of the leading tribes ( clans ) of Quraish. Abu Bakr former name was Abdul Ka'ba ( servant of the cube ) which also demonstrates the extent of Idol Worship prevailing in Arabia before the advent of the Prophet Muhammad and now. Abu Bakr was a Ka'ba or '' Stone Worshipper '' and after the death of the Prophet Muhammad he made them and you Orthodox Sunni Muslims Worship A '' Rock''. Abu Bakr was a very properous merchant , considered to be very popular and respected . He was deeply devoted to Islam until the death of the Prophet Muhammad in 632 A.D. From that point on he persecuted the Prophet Muhammad's family. He used his power and money to influence people to support his claim as the rightful successor '' caliph'' Abu Bakr reigened for Two Years, 9 Months And 9 Days And Died After A Long Term Illness . He Chose 'Umar To Succeed Him .

( 2 ) . Pope 'Umar Al Khattaab ( 591 - 644 A.D. ) 'Uthman was a Red Arab from the tribe of Adi ibn Kaab, a clan of the tribe of Quraish. 'Umar was known as a man with a fierce and aggressive nature. He served as the Prophet Muhammad's second in command of the Muslim army . Under his leadership , the Muslims feared him more than loved him and they secretly opposed him. He reigned for Ten Years, Six Months And Eight Days , After his death the elected council of Six Oldest companions of the Prophet Muhammad elected 'Uthman as the next successor.

( 3 ) . 'Uthman was a Black Arab from the tribe of Umayya, an affluent clan of the Abid Shams Branch of the tribe of Quraish. 'Uthman was an influential Meccan who became a close companion of the Prophet Muhammad . His wealth and position was an asset to the growing Muslim community. 'Uthman is responsible for arranging the chapters of the Qur'an in the order that it is today. Yet, he did not receive special instructions in collecting and collating the Qur'an. 'Uthman reigned for 11 years which caused ggreat grievances, especially with the revolutionary movement led by Al Ghafikhi from Egypt, which cost him his life.

These Three Men Are The '' Popes Of Islam''. Their Words Are Law, And To This Day You Even Base Your Sermons On What They Said And Did Instead Of The Words Of Allah. These Men Lied , Cheated And Took Away The '' Caliphate '' Posittion From The Son - In - Law And Cousin Of The Prophet Muhammad , Amirul Mu' minin Ali ( 599 - 661 A.D. ) And Persecuted Him And His Family. These Men Were The Founders Of The '' Orthodox Muslim'' Sect . You Orthodox Musims Want These Men To Seem So '' Holy '' That You Have Fabricated A '' Hadith '' In Order To Carry Out Your Plan. From '' The Selected Traditions Of Al - Nawawi '' , M.O.A. Abdul, Nigeria, 1973 A.D. Page 65. < HE AMONG YOU WHO LIVES LONG ENOUGH WILL SEE GREAT DISAGREEMENT , SO TAKE CARE TO OBSERVE MY SUNNA AND THE SUNNA OF THE RIGHTLY GUIDED CALIPHS, HOLDING ON TO THEM WITH YOUR MOLAR TEETH....

This Is A Fabricated Hadith, it is an outright Lie, The expression found in the above Hadith '' Al Khulafaa ' Ar Rashideen'' refers to the first four caliphs ( successors ) recongnized by the Orthodox Sunni Sect of the Prophet Muhammad. The phrase '' Al Khulafaa ' Ar Rashideen '' didn't appear in Arabic literature until 200 years after the Prophet Muhammad passed away ; It is a modern expression. Therefore , the Prophet Muhammad could not have said this statement even though that is what they want You To Believe. This Is How They Purposely Lie To You And Keep You Believing Their Lies. This Statement Was Fabricated By Men And Inserted Into A Book Of Traditions And Passed Od As A '' Good '' Hadith And You Follow To This Day Blindly Without Knowing Any Better . The Traditions Found In The Hadith Books ,Which Are Not Found In The Qur'an, Are Nothing More Than Lies.

The Popes Of The Orthodox Muslims And The Popes Of The Christian Faith, What Is The Difference ? Pope Abu Bakr Abdullah Ibn Uthman ( 573 - 634 A.D. ) And Pope John Paul , Or Pope UmarIbn Al Khattaab ( 591 - 644 A.D. ) And Pope John XXlll , Or Pope Uthman Ibn Affaan Ibn Abdul Aasiy ( 574 - 656 A.D. ) , And Pope Pius Xl ....

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The compilers of Hadith are not adored or revered as saints, they are scholars of ahadith - and the ahadith are not about them either but what companions said regarding the Prophet.

There are those in the Islamic world though - namely the Sufis who do revere saints and visit graves of pious people who they deem as saints or awliyah - this occurs in many muslim countries including egypt- though there is no concpet of saints in the Quran or Sunnah itself.

But you probably didn't see the first bit of the video I included which makes a point that unlike Catholicism, Islam has no pope-like figure - which gives room to difference of opinion within Islam.

The Caliph (Khalifah) means sucessor to the Prophet - And it can hardly be compared to the Pope - as their roles differ.

You clearly haven't research enough to distinguish:

According to the Britannica it states:

It should be noted that, although the office of the Sunnī caliph (khalīfah, one who is successor to the Prophet in rulership) is religious, this does not imply any functions comparable to those of the pope. The caliph has no authority either to define dogma or, indeed, even to legislate. He is the chief executive of a religious community, and his primary function is to implement the sacred law and work in the general interests of the community. He himself is not above the law and if necessary can even be deposed, at least in theory

Islam :: The state -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia

But you tend to think you know more than encyclopedias


As said before in Islam there is difference of opinion - if there was no difference of opinion then there would be no Muthahib- no need. But it is the mathabs which have difference in opinion and interpretation of Islamic texts -which is the basis for Shariah - the Caliph makes sure it is implemented but doesn't make the laws etc.


Also from a review of the book The Caliphate by Sir Thomas W Arnold:

"Students of the constituional theory of Islam have always known that the so beloved pope-caliph analogy was entirely false and that the caliph was only the administrator or executive of the system of Islam, both on the lay and on the religious side, having no authority whatever as to the forumlating of that system."

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As You Said '' Opinions , '' Did Your Allah Cause These Difference ? If There Are Difference Of '' Opinions Being Taught About Al Islaam Then This Causes ( Confusion ) . It's Nothing To Be Proud Of . Isn't It Wrirrn In Your ( HADITH ?? ) That The Prophets Said There Will Be ( Confusion ) Amongst My People Who Will ( Separate Into 72 + ) < Different Sects > That Would Be Obsolete Now , Because There Are Past That Limit Now ! So The Prophet Muhammad ( Mispredicted ) From The Ahmadiyya , To The Nation Of Islaam , To The 5 Percenters , Etc And Here 's The List Of The 73 Sect Prior To Them 1 - 12 Are The Rafiziyah ; So -Called Separatists Who Divide Into 1 - 12 , 13 - 24 Are Called The Kharijiyah ; So-Called '' The Aliens '' Who Are Divided Into 13 - 24 , 25 - 36 Are Called The Jabariyah ; So-Called '' Deniers Of Free Will '' Who Are Divided In 25 - 36 . 37 - 48 Are The Qadariya ; The So-Called '' Asserters Of Free Will '' Who Are Divided Into 37 - 48 . The 49 -60 Are The Jahimiyah . Who Follow A Man Named Jahim Ibn Safwan , 49 - 60 . 61 - 72 Are The Murjiyah Or Procrastinators , Who Are Divided Into 61 - 72 ; 73 Are The Najiyah Or So - Called Saved -Oned Is 73* . 74


1 . Alawiy -ah 2 . Abadia -yah 3 . Shu'aib -iyah 4 . Ishaqiy -ah 5 . Zaidiay - ah 6 . Abbasi -yah 7 . Imamiy 8 . Narisiyah 9 . Tanasu - khiyah 10 . La'iniy -ah 11 . Rari'iya -h 12 . Murtazi -yah 13 . Azraqiy -ah 14 . Riyaziya 15 . Sa'labi -yah 16 . Jazimiy -ah 17 . Khalifiy -ah 18 . Kuziyah 19 . Kanziyah 20 . Mu'taz -ilah 21 . Maimu -niyah 22 . Muhka -miyah 23. Sirajiya -h 24 . Akhnasi -syah 25 . Muztari-yah 26 . Af'aliya -h 27 . Ma'iyah 28 . Tariqiy 29 . Bakhtiy -ah 30 . Mutam -anniyah 31 . Kaslani -yah 32 . Habbibi -yah 33 . Khaufiy -ah 34 . Fikriyah 35 . Hasabiy -ah 36 . Hujjati -yah 37 . Ahadiy -ah 38 . Sanawi -yah 39 . Kaisani -yah 40 . Shaitani -yah 41 . Shariki -yah 42 . Wahmi - yah 43 . Ruwaid -iyah 44 . Nakisiy -ah 45 . Mutaba -rriyah 46 . Qasitiyah 47 . Nazami - yah 48 . Mutawa -llifyah 49 . Mu'att-aliyah 50 . Mutara-bisiyah 51 , Mutara-qibiyah 52 . Waridiy -ah 53 . Harqiyah 54 . Makhlu -qiyah 55. Ibariya -h 56 , Faniyah 57 . Zanadi -qiyah 58 . Lafziyah 59 . Qabriyah 60 . Waqifiy -ah 61 . Tariqiy -ah 62 . Sha'iyah 63 . Rajiyah 64 . Shakkiy-ah 65 . Nahiyah 66 . 'Amaliy -ah 67 . Manqus -iyah 68 . Mustas-niyah 69 . Ash'ari-yyah 70 . Bid'iyah 71 . Mushab-bihiyah 72 . Hashawi -yah 73 . Hashaw -iyah 74 . Ansaar -ullah 75 . Ahmadi-yah 76 . Nation Of Islam 77. Five Percenters 78 . Bahi 79 . Nubian Islamic Hebrews 80 . African Islamic Mission 81 . Moorish Science Temple ( Just to name a few )


Now This Is ( Confusion ) , Irtibaak , Balbala , For Islam , Or Any Other Religion That Has Divided Into Sect , And Differences Of Opinions . What's Beautiful About ( Confusion ? ) In America , There Are Many Sect As Well . According To The Book Of The Muslims World , Allah Speak Against Dividing Up Into Sects . Here Take A Look ..

Qur'aan 23 ; 52 - 53 ( Yusef Ali )
And verily this brotherhood of your is a ( Single Brotherhood ) And I am your lord and cherisher ; Therefore fear me ( And No Other ) . But people have cut off their affair ( Of Unity ) Between them into Sects ; Each party rejoices in that which is with itself .

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You are now twisting words again it isn't "confusion" - that would refer to SECTS but with Muthahib - there is IKHTILAAF - Difference of Opinion.

That is a good thing to have in Islam - otherwise there would be one authorative figure who legislates and decrees and interprets and the whole religion must follow that one interpretation- There is no pope in Islam- as explained in previous post.

Difference of opinion also is good for having a middle ground - between extremism and total liberalism.

Also one thing you should realise about Muthahib is that they share the same AQEEDAH - that is beliefs. All the muthahib - including the shia Jafari mathab all agree - there is Ijma3 - consensus with regards to the Oneness of Allah - Tawheed - the Finality of the Prophet, the Quran and the importance of Sunnah etc - all these differing schools AGREE on these fundamentals. Their only differences are a matter of rulings - FIQH not AQEEDAH - with which NOI and Ahmadiya differ in - hence are not difference of opinion but having a different Aqeedah altogether, e.g Allah incarnate, race supremacy, a different final prophet etc, etc

No Matter How You Slice It-It Still ( Confusion ) Because Those Diffrent Sects Of Muslims Are Claiming To Be Teaching The Words Of Allah , And We Both Know This To Be Truth , All Them Have A Diffrent Story To Tell / Teach KeyWord Here Story . That Like Saying Allah Couldn't Make Up His Mind . Deeepppppppppp . This Why Belief is ignorance. Belief is to ignore the facts, intentionally or ignorantly. But Whatever Get You Through The Day . LOLOLOL

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Those sects can claim as they choose - The Quran says let there be no compulsion in religion - just as you choose (being the keyword) to believe in the ancient egyptian beliefs. We all have free-will and a choice at the end of the day.

The other sects really do not bother me, especially since they are going against the aqeedah - Allah has preserved the Quran in original Arabic, there is no confusion in that regard- just people who have gone astray from its teachings - and the aqeedah - which is static and agreed on by the various Mathabs, who do represent Islam.

Which is why Muslims pray everyday in Suratul Fatihah - Guide us to the Straight Path- the path of those whom You have favoured, Not the path of those who earnt Your Anger nor those who went astray.

ameen.

El's Holy Qur'aan 17 ; 81 , And I Quote ; And Tell Them This ( Muhammad ) ; The Facts ( Beyond Any Doubt ) Have Come And False Way Were To Vanish . Surely , The False WayS Were To Vanish In Time .
Amun

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yep exactly

Allah commanding Muhammad to convey the truth. Up to the people whether they accept or not, another verse says "The duty of the messenger is ONLY to convey (the message)" 5:99