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17th September 2008, 19:59
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According To Christianity Who Was Jesus Father ?
Most of you believe in and have heard the story about how The Angel Gabriel appeared to a virgin name Mary 2,000 years ago to bring her news . In the form of The Holy Ghost , Mary would miraculously become Impregnated by God Himself , Because she was '' Full Of Grace '' , They never really explained exactly how this would happen . They just say , By The '' Will Of God'' , It happened . The child she bore was The '' Son Of God '' , Who later grew up to Be God Himself . They Say God The Father , God The Son And God The Holy Ghost , ( Are One In The Same . If you are truly Interested in learning The Truth about Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Christ and would like to be a part of The 144,000 who follow - The Real Messiah , The True Lamb On Into The Kingdom Of Heaven Then Open Your Mind And Continue To Read On .
What Make Math So Special ? The fact that Math Does Not Lie . Now let's take a look at this mathematically . 1 plus , 1 plus , 1 plus = 3 ___ God The Father ___ God The Son __ God The Holy Ghost ___ Three Cannot Go Into 1 ;.... This is the popular story that Christians teach around Christmas and Easter to explain what they Understand about the birth of the Messiah Jesus of 2,000 years ago . It Sounds Nice And Its '' Clean '' Enough To Tell Children ( But It's Just Not True . The Real Truth Is , The Holy Ghost Who Appeared To Mary Is The Same Angel Name Gabriel Of Which Jesus Was Born . Thus Making The Angel Gabriel The Father Of The Child Named Jesus . Refer To ; Luke 1 ; 29 - 35 , Luke 4 ; 18 And Koran 2 ; 253 , 3 ; 45 , 4 ; 171 And 19 ; 17 - 22 .
How Did We Get Fooled So Easy ? The Christian Preachers Preach The Bible Don't Teach , Know , Understand Nor Can Translate The Holy Scriptures In Their Original Languages . What Were The Scriptures Original Language ? The Old Testament called The Torah was reavealed in Ancient Aramic ( Hebrew ) , The New Testament was revealed in The Greek language , And recorded many years after the actual incident took place . What Does That Mean ? The recorders who recoreded it in The Greek language were recording incidents that were being spoken in Aramic ( Hebrew ) and Syretic ( Arabic ) . Am I Saying There Is No Greek Bible ? No , That's not what I'm saying . There are many Greek Bibles ; Today's New Jehovah's Witnesses are a Christian group with their Own Greek Version .
None of The Christian Churches are translation from the original manuscripts because they don't have access to them , And even if they did have access to these manuscripts , They can't read them because they don't know the language . ( Ask The Head Of Your Church Does He . She Read '' Ancient '' Greek or '' Ancient '' Aramic . If They Are Honest They Would Have To Say '' No '' But It Is Clear From The Book Of Acts , Chapter 2 Verses 1 - 3 That these languages were there at The Day Of Pentecost . It's Important to use that is translate Word for Word from The Greek and The Aramic ( Hebrew ) and The Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) So you can check it yourself . Seek Out A Book Entitled '' The Greek Key Study Bible World Bible Publishers Inc . '' To Check The Translations ;
Who Was Jesus 'Father ? First , Look In ; The Tales Of Luke 1 ; 35 , And I Quote ; And the messenger answered and said to her . '' The holy ghost will ( Come Upon You ) and the power of The Most High Will ( Lay Upon ) you so also that holy one which will be born of you will be called the son of Theh-Os ( Angelic Nessenger , Elohim ) . < Right Translation In Greek >
( Mistranslation For King James 1611 A.D. )
And the angel answered and said unto her the holy ghost shall come upon thee . And the power of the highest shall overshadow thee ; Therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called The Son Of God .
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17th September 2008, 20:00
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Make note of the expression ( To Lay Upon ) which is translated out of your english version . And also that The Greek word Theh-Os throughout your Greek traslation is equivalent to The Hebrew Name Elohim which is a plural of Eli ( My God )
The Koran Of The Muslims - Koran Suwra Al Nisa ( The Women ) 4 ; 171
Oh family of the scriptures , Torah of Moses , Don't transgress on your way of life . And don't say things about El Eloh except facrs beyond any doubt . Surely The Messiah Jesus Son Of Mary , Is only one sent by Allah and a bearer of his words . ( He , The Source , Threw His Soul By The Elohim Gabriel , Unto Mary And His Very Soul From Himself ) . So , Have faith in Allah and the one he sent and don't say he Allah is a part of a trinity , It is time ti stop it , For it is better for you all . ( Surely The Source , For Him Is The Only One ; So Far Be It Of His Glory . That There Should Exist For Him A Physical Son By Blood , '' Walad '' . And All That Is In The Skies And The Planet Earth Is His . All Enosites On Earth Are His Sons And Daughters . And He Alone Is Syfficien As A Protector < Reight Translation In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) >
Mistranslation By Abdullah Yusuf Ali 1938 A.D. )
'' O people of the book ! Commit no excesses in you religion ; Nor say of God aught but the truth . Christ Jesus the son of mary was ( No More Than ) An apostle of God and his word , Which he bestowed on Mary . , And a spirit proceeding from him ; So believe in God and his apostles . Say not '' Trinity '' Desist it will be better for you for God is one good ; Glory be to him ( Far Exalted Is He ) Above having a son , To him belong all things on the heaven and on earth and enough is God as disposer of affairs .
Do I Mean That The Koran Of The Moslems Has The Same Story ? Yes , one of the best kept secrets amongst Muslims is that they believe in all the stories of Christianity and that the Koran , In itself , Was copied from The Bible . As I have saying for for a while , If Christians would read The Bible and you Muslims would really read your Koran , You would find the entire story in it . If you were fortunate enough to have learned the original languages of The Scriptures inwhich they were revealed , You would get the real meaning instead of Guessing at what The Scriptures Are Really Trying To Say . Your Preachers and Imaams know little of anything at all about Aramic ( Hebrew ) , The Language Of The Old Testament Or Greek , The Language Of The New Teatament . They Have Translated From The Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) Language Which The Koran Was Written In . Allah Is The Name In The Testament Called '' Eli '' In Matthew 27 ; 46 . Jesus Used The Phrase '' Eli , Eli , Lama Sabachthani '' Which Translates As '' My God , My God Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me ''
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17th September 2008, 20:01
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According To Christianity Who Was Jesus Father ?
And In Psalms 22 ; 1 David Made The Same Declaration Saying '' Eli , Eli ... In The Hebrew Or Aramic Language It Is -Eloh , The Arabic Is Eloh , Eli Or Allah . The Fact Is , The Angel Gabriel Was Sent Down In A Physical Form To Perform A Physical Act . Mary Was Told By The Angel Michael That Gabriel Was Coming From Eli ( Eloh , Allah ) By His Command And That He Would Impregnate Mary With Eli's Holy Spirit , The Soul , The Rooakh In The Original Hebrew And Ruwh In Arabic . In What Sense Is Jesus The Son Of Eli ( Eloh , Allah Translated As God ? Jesus Is The Son Of God In The Sense That It Was The '' Ruwh , The Holy Soul Or Spark Of Life Of God That Made It Possible For Jesus And Every Other Living Neing On The Planet To Have Life . Eli Sent His Holy Spirit Down With The Angel Gabriel .
Just What Does It Mean '' With The Angel Gabriel ? It is a very funny statement if you look at it . Gabriel came from an Underfined place . So , We are left to assume he came from heaven and as a messenger , He was bringing a message or a package . This package was holy and it was from God . While Gabriel was transporting this packages of God in whatever form he carried it , Then he would be God for that period of time . If not he would have to be carrying some kind of package of God whether it is a physical thing or a Spiritual thing . This is what makes the story sound strange . He brought this package so that he may fill mary with this package of holy spirit , So that she conceive a child that would be filled with The Holy Spirit .
( There Is No Way That God Himself Could Have Done This Phyical Act . Because One Thing That God , By Whatever Name You Call Him , Cannot Do Is Become Less Than Himself Or Mail Off Packages Of Himself By Way Of Messengers , Because To Take Away From Himself Would Make Him Less Than Total And God Is Always Total And Complete . Just Think About That Point . ) ....
So You Mean To Tell Me Mary Had Sex With A Man In Order To Conceive Jesus ? That's Not What I Am Saying , That's What Your Scriptures Are Saying If You Can Read Them In Their Original Language . Mary Had Sexual Intercourse With A Man To Conceive Jesus Whose Original Name In The Language He Spoke , Was Yashu'a '' The Saviour''
What About The Miracle Birth ? It's Called The '' Immaculate Conception '' Immaculate '' Is A Word That Means Simply , '' A Clean Birth '' Insofar As Gabriel Is Referred To In Daniel 9 ; 21 As '' The ( Man ) Gabriel '' And In This Very Quote The Aramic ( Hebrew ) Word EESH Which Meaning '' Male Living Being '' Was Used To Described Gabriel . In This Quote , Daniel Says That He First Saw Gabriel In A Vision And Then He Later Saw Him While In Prayer . This Is Another Confirmation That Gabriel Can And Does Manifest In Human Form .
Daniel 9 ; 21 , And I Quote ; Yes While I Was Speaking In Prayer Even The Male Living Being Gabriel Whom I Had Seen In A Vision At The Prayer Flew Swiftly And Touched Me About The Time Of The Dusk Offering . < Reight Translation In Aramic ( Hebrew ) >
( Mistranslation For King James 1611 A.D. )
'Yea, Whiles I Was Speaking In Prayer , Even The Man Gabriel , Whom I Had Seen In The Vision At The Beginning , Being Caused To Fly Swiftly , Touched Me About The Time Of The Evening Oblation ,
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17th September 2008, 20:03
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Am I Saying That Angel Are Physical Men ? If You Read The Quotes You'd See For Yourself That This Is What The Scriptures Are Saying . These Angels Can Come Into Human Form . The Koran Take It A Step Further In Koran 19 ; 17 . The Man Gabriel Is The Miracle Of An Angel Coming Down To A Daughter Of Man . Manifestation In Not A New Phenomena To The World . There Are Numerous Accounts Where Angels Have Incarnated In The Form Of Human Men And Have Dispersed Amongst The People . And Yes , Even Had Sex With Human Women , Angels ! First , I Must Show You How Angels Are . ( SON OF GODS )
Job 1 ; 6 And I Quote ; On Day As The Sons Of The Angelic Messenger ( Elohim , A Plural For Eli God ) Came To Present Themselves At The Place Of Yahuwa , The Evil One Came Also In The Midst Of Them .< Reight Translation In Aramic ( Hebrew ) >
( Mistranslation For King James 1611 A.D. )
'' Now There Was A Day When The Sons Of God Came To Present Themselves Before The LORD , And Satan Came Also Among Them ,
In The Koran 19 ; 17 It Tell You That Angel Appeared Before Mary As A Man .
The Koran Of The Muslims - Suwra Maryam ( Mary 19 ; 17 And I Quote ; So She Took A Screen And Covere Herself From Them ( Then We Elohim Sent To Her Our Own Soul Gabriel , Nusku '' One Who Comes Forth From El '' ; So He Was For Her Just Like Any Other Mortal In Skin Complet < Reight Translation In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) >
Mistranslation By Abdullah Yusuf Ali 1938 A.D. )
''She Placed A Screen ( To Screen Herself ) From Them ; Then We Sent To Her Our Angel , And He Appeared Before Her As A Man In All Respects . ;...... Gabriel Father Of Jesus ( Luke 1 ; 19 ) -
( Maryam Mother Of Matthew 1 ; 18 ) ..
Do The Angels Have Sex ? Now , Let Us Address This Question Do The Elohims ( Angelic Beings Have Sex ? Genesis 6 ; 1 - 4 , And I Quote ; When in time the Adamites tribes began multiplying all over the surface of the ground , On the outside of the enclosed garden and may daughters were born unto them . ( And The Son's Of Elohims ( Anaqites ) Saw The Daughters Of Adamites That They Were Very Agreeable And Beaitiful In Their Hearts And They Took Them ) By Force to be their wives all of those they chose . These seed of Anath ( Eve's [ Nekaybaw's ] mother the hawilahites or the dogon tribes of Mali . Then Yahuwa declared ; My soul the seed of The Elohim bred in The Adamites from Ninqi , The divine will not judge in their genes for eterenity , Because it has been mixed with with human skin , His is also a mortal , Hom -Erectus to Homo -Sapien and must die in time . In fact all the days of his physical life span will be 120 years . Also those who fall down to The Planet Earth in that same period of time were the shaggy giants from The 6 Star Constellation Orion , The Disagreeable Elohims ( The Anaqites ) . After the rape of the Adamite Dogon tribe's daughters ( The Sons Of The Agreeable Elohim / Anunnaqi From Arcturus Riz , The 8th Planet In The 19th Galaxy Illyuwn , Were Sent Here To Breed Amongst The Moratal . Went In And Had Sexual Intercourse With The Daughters Of The Adamites And Gave Birth To Children With A Dual Nature ( Homo-Erectus ) , These Gabariyns Were Very Powerful Because They Were The Sons And Daughters Of The Elohim Anunnaqi Who Had Existed For What It Seem To Be An Eternity . < Reight Translation In Aramic ( Hebrew ) >
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17th September 2008, 20:04
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According To Christianity Who Was Jesus Father ?
( Mistranslation For King James 1611 A.D. )
And it came to pass, When men began to multiply on the face of the earth . And daughters were were born unto them , That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair ; And they took them wives of all which they chose . And the LORD said , My spirit shall not always strive with man , For that he also is flesh ; Yet his days shall be an hundren and twenty years . There were fiants in the earth in those days ; And also after that , When the sons of God came into the daughters of men , And they bare children to them , The same became mighty men which were of old , Men of renow .
There Are Many Other Places In The Scriptures That Confirm The Fact That Angels Do Incarnate Into Human Form When On Earth . Refer To Genesis 18 ; 1-2 , 19 ; 12 , 19 ; 11 - 13 , Numbers 22 ; 23 , Koran 97 ; 1 - 5
< What Other Proof Do You Need ? >
In fact , Jesus himself was born of The Holy Spirit and if a child is what their parents are then Jesus being born of The Holy Ghost was A Holy Ghost ( Angel ) ; And being born of A Human Mother , A Human Being ; That's why he was called The Son Of God ( An Angel ) And The Son Of Man meaning A Mortal Being and also , He was called the word ( Spirit ) Made Flesh Or Body . So Yes . God Can Make His Angelic Children In Human Form In All Aspects Of The Human Beings . Job 1 ; 6 Genesis 6 ; 1
Genesis 28 ; 12 , And I Quote ; And as he dreamt behold a ladder set upward on that part of the planet earth and ( The Head Of It Reached To The Sky And Behold The Messenger Of Elohim Aliym Highest Ascending And Coming Down On It ) . < Reight Translation In Aramic ( Hebrew ) >
( Mistranslation For King James 1611 A.D. )
And he dreamed , And behold a ladder set up on the earth , And the top of it reached to heaven ; And behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it .
This Is Further Proof That Angels Do Ascend And Daescend By The Will Of Eli ( God ) .
I Want All Of You To Become Accustomed To '' Testing The Spirit ( 1 John 4 ; 1 ) . When Someone Tells You About The Scriptures Or Starts Quoting From The Bible , Tell Them !! '' Open Your Bible Up !! Check Behind Them !!! Make Sure It Says What They Are Alleging . This Way You Can See For Yourself . Don't Take My Word For It . Open Your Scriptures !!! Read !!! See It For Yourself !! Don't Believe Me Check It Out !
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